Payn FitzJohn

1093 - 1137  (44 years)

• Name	Payn FitzJohn  [1]
  Birth	1093	Herefordshire, England   [1]
  Gender	Male
  Death	10 Jul 1137	Holkham, Norfolk, England   [1]
  	Payn was killed by the Welsh in an ambush, from a javelin blow to the head. He had been attempting to lead a relief expedition to garrison at Carmarthen when the ambush was sprung
  Burial	Gloucestershire, England   [1]
  	Gloucester Cathedral
  		Church - Cathedral at Gloucester Also known as: Cathedral Church of St Peter and the Holy and Undivided Trinity http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=cr&GSln=FI&GSpartial=1&GSbyrel=all&GScntry=5&GSsr=3921&GRid=75731503&CRid=638870&
  Person ID	I14444	A Tree Called Smith
  Last Modified	21 Jul 2025

  
  

  Father	John FitzRichard,   b. 1056, Knaresborough, Yorkshire, England d. 1138, Saxlingham, Norfolk, England (Age 82 years)
  Relationship	natural
  Mother	Magdalen Cecily de Blois,   b. 1060, France d. 1100, France (Age 40 years)
  Relationship	natural
  Marriage	1078	Picardie, France
  	(St Marys)
  Family ID	F2399	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  
  

  Family	Sibyl Talbot,   b. 1093, Dartford, Kent, England d. 10 Jul 1137, Herefordshire, England (Age 44 years)
  Marriage	1115	England
  Children	1. Cecily FitzPayn,   b. 1127, Ewyas Harold, Herefordshire, England d. 1204, Hereford, Herefordshire, England (Age 77 years)  [Father: natural]  [Mother: natural]
  Family ID	F5247	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
  Last Modified	21 Jul 2025

  
  

• Event Map

  Birth - 1093 - Herefordshire, England Marriage - 1115 - England Death - 10 Jul 1137 - Holkham, Norfolk, England Burial - - Gloucestershire, England  = Link to Google Earth

  
  

• Arms Icons & Insignia

  Arms-FitzJOHN FitzJohn Coat of Arms

  
  

  Biographies and Histories

  History-PAYN Family Payn FitzJohn

  
  

  Places

  Church - Cathedral at Gloucester Also known as: Cathedral Church of St Peter and the Holy and Undivided Trinity http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=cr&GSln=FI&GSpartial=1&GSbyrel=all&GScntry=5&GSsr=3921&GRid=75731503&CRid=638870&

  
  

• Sources

  [S6040] FindAGrave Old World, Payn FitzJohn 1086-1137. Payn was the son of John "One Eye" Monoculus. He was an Anglo-Norman nobleman and administrator, and one of King Henry I of England's "new men". Payn, along with his brothers, rose through their ability to become important royal officials during the reign of King Henry. Payn was rewarded with marriage to Sybil Talbot in 1115, and among the lands he gained control of through his wife was Ludlow Castle, which he augmented with further land acquisitions. Payn, held the office of sheriff in two counties near the border with Wales. He also served as a royal justice, hearing legal cases for the king in much of western England. Although his family had originated in Normandy, Pain appears to have mostly concentrated his career in England and the Welsh Marches. After the death of King Henry in 1135, Payn supported Henry's nephew, King Stephen, and was with the new king throughout 1136. On 10 July 1137 Payn was killed by the Welsh in an ambush, from a javelin blow to the head. He had been attempting to lead a relief expedition to garrison at Carmarthen when the ambush was sprung. His burial was in Gloucester Abbey, with the funeral service conducted by Robert de Bethune. A number of barons from the Welsh Marches attended, including Miles of Gloucester. After his death, his widow continued to hold Ludlow Castle until the summer of 1139, when she was forced to surrender it to King Stephen. Stephen then gave Sybil in marriage to Joceline Dinan, who also acquired Ludlow Castle through his new wife. This set up the background to Gilbert Lacy's attempts to seize Ludlow from Dinan, which forms the basis for the medieval Welsh romance work Fouke le Fitz Waryn. His heirs were his daughters, Cecily and Agnes. Cecily married Roger Fitzmiles, 2nd Earl of Herefordson, the son of one of Pain's close associates, Miles of Gloucester and Agnes married Warin de Munchesny. https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/75731503/fi